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The UAP hearings explained

Our own look at a common question, by David Dell. The background on this page is ours, not a summary of the book.

On July 26, 2023, the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs held a hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.” Three witnesses testified under oath. Every quote below comes from the official transcript.

The witnesses

The biggest claims

Asked by Rep. Robert Garcia whether he believed the government possesses UAPs, Grusch answered: “Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over 4 years.” Asked by Rep. Nancy Mace whether biologics recovered with craft were human or nonhuman, he said: “Nonhuman, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program.” He said he couldn't give specifics in an open hearing, offered more detail in a closed session, and said he had given locations to the Inspector General.

The skeptic in the room

Rep. Eric Burlison opened his questions this way: “Look, I have been here for 6 months and I am pretty skeptical.” And: “You have got to show me, right.” When he asked Grusch whether he had seen any of the bodies, Grusch replied: “That is something I have not witnessed myself.”

What the hearing did and didn't do

The hearing put serious allegations on the public record, under oath. It didn't prove them. The pilots described what they saw. Grusch said his biggest claims rested on interviews with people who had direct knowledge, and he reserved the details for closed settings. Both things can be true at once: the testimony was striking, and testimony isn't the same as evidence the public can examine. If you want history's best-known precedent for a story that changed over time, see Roswell 1947.

A Christian take

Burlison's “show me” is close to the Bible's own instinct:

“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (KJV)

For a Christian there's a second question beyond “is it real?”: if something is out there, what is it? The hearings were about hardware and secrecy, and they didn't ask that question. We take it up in The interdimensional theory of UFOs and Is UFO disclosure a deception?

Sources: Hearing transcript, July 26, 2023 (PDF) · House Oversight hearing page · Congress.gov event 116282 · 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (KJV)

About the book

From the book's Amazon description

The Watchers Among Us: Unveiling the Spiritual Truth of the UFO Phenomenon by David Dell asks, “What if everything you thought you knew about UFOs was wrong?” This page is our own summary of the public record; the book's description doesn't discuss the hearings. The book's view is that UFOs are an interdimensional phenomenon, likely the Bible's fallen angels, masquerading as space aliens ahead of a coming grand deception, and it asks: “Are they testing us? Shaping us? Preparing us for a collision of realms?”

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